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Richard Cohen seems to be experiencing some buyer’s remorse in regard to Barack Obama. Last week in a column, Mr. Cohen lamented that Barack Obama has lost much of the “moral clarity” that he had when he was running for president. To be specific, Mr. Cohen wrote the following—

“But to reread the speech is also to come face to face with an Obama of keen moral clarity. Here was a man who knew why he was running for president and knew, also precisely, what he personified. He could talk to America both as a black man and a white man — having lived in both worlds. He could — and he did — explain to America what it is like to have been a black man of Wright’s age and what it is like even now to be a black man of any age.”

Gee—I didn’t think that was a qualification to run for president (maybe a qualification to be a motivational speaker), but I digress.

Then, after admitting that he had been the one “In my set” to have some reservations about Barack Obama (even though he wrote nothing but glowing columns about Obama pre-election), Mr. Cohen wrote the following

“Somehow, though, that moral clarity has been dissipated. The Obama who was leading a movement of professed political purity is the very same person who as president would not meet with the Dalai Lama, lest he annoy the very sensitive Chinese. He is the same man who bowed to the emperor of Japan when, in my estimation, the president of the United States should bow to no man. He is the same president who in China played the mannequin for the Chinese government, appearing at stage-managed news conference and appearances — and having his remarks sometimes censored. When I saw him in that picture alone on the Great Wall, he seemed to be saying, “What the hell am I doing here?” If so, it was a good question.

The Barack Obama of that Philadelphia speech would not have let his attorney general, Eric Holder, announce the new policy for trying Khalid Sheik Mohammed and four other 9/11 defendants in criminal court, as if this was a mere departmental issue and not one of momentous policy. And the Barack Obama of the speech would have enunciated a principle of law and not an ad hoc system in which some alleged terrorists are tried in civilian courts and some before military tribunals. Where is the principle in that — what works, works? Try putting that one on the Liberty Bell.”

Furthermore, Maureen Dowd also seems to be experiencing some buyer’s remorse in regard to vigorously supporting Barack Obama. In a recent column (where she actually has some nice things to say about Sarah Palin), Ms. Dowd writes the following

“If we could see a Reduced Shakespeare summary of Obama’s presidency so far, it would read:

Dither, dither, speech. Foreign trip, bow, reassure. Seminar, summit. Shoot a jump shot with the guys, throw out the first pitch in mom jeans. Compromise, concede, close the deal. Dither, dither, water down, news conference.”

Now, I find Mr. Cohen and Ms. Dowd’s change of heart towards President Obama to be a bit curious. I mean, anyone with a seventh grade education and a mouse could have found out that Obama would “dither” and “concede” when it came to Afghanistan and would go out of his way to project weakness to the rest of the world. I mean, Obama had the most left-wing voting record in the Senate, he openly bragged in debates about his willingness to meet with dictators and shut down Gitmo, and he never even held one hearing on Afghanistan as a Senator despite chairing a subcommittee on NATO, so I’m not sure what else these two could have expected.

However, I did a little digging into both Mr. Cohen’s and Ms. Dowd’s columns regarding President Obama, and what I found was quite interesting. In March of 2008, Richard Cohen wrote a column titled, “Taking the Call on Black Men” where he basically acknowledged that Hillary Clinton was more qualified to deal with national security issues, or the “3 AM call”, but that Barack Obama should be president instead, because he was more qualified “to take the call on black men in prison”. Why? Well, I’m not really sure. Mr. Cohen doesn’t say what Obama’s qualifications are in regard to dealing with disproportionately high levels of black men in prison, other than being black himself (which I don’t think is an actual qualification).

Furthermore, in November of 2008, right after Obama was elected president, Maureen Dowd wrote a column titled, “The Tracks of Our Tears” where she prattled on about how white people were finally talking to black people in Manhattan and about how she deigned to ask her “cute black mailman” what he thought about the election of Obama. (The Gawker mocked her boasting in that column that Gwen Ifil was her one black friend). Someone should inform Ms. Dowd that we bitter clingers in the south and middle America have been talking to black people long before Obama came along, but I digress.

So, now I’m going to be politically incorrect here and diagnose Richard Cohen and Maureen Dowd with a raging case of white liberal guilt. I mean, why else would someone so enthusiastically support a candidate that he or she has “reservations” about? Especially when said candidate’s campaign was, to quote liberal reporter John Heilemann, “a policy free zone”. It must be because of all of Barack Obama’s long years of legislative experience. Oh, wait a minute—I forgot. Barack Obama is an inexperienced neophyte with unsavory friends. Well, wait. Maybe it was the outstanding leadership on Afghanistan that Obama demonstrated when he was a US Senator. Oh wait a minute—I forgot. As previously stated, Barack Obama didn’t hold one hearing of his Senate subcommittee that he chaired on NATO forces in Afghanistan. Is it any wonder that he was “dithering” for so long about whether or not to send more troops into Afghanistan? Moreover, given the fact that both Mr. Cohen and Ms. Dowd seem to have serious disagreements with many of Obama’s decisions, white liberal guilt seems to be the only logical reason for their past vociferous support of him (and trashing of everyone else who ran against him).

Now, to be fair to Mr. Cohen and Ms. Dowd, a plethora of reporters and pundits suffered from white liberal guilt when it came to covering Barack Obama. Recently, Chris Matthews made a flaming ass of himself when he suggested that racism is at the heart of Sarah Palin’s support. To be specific, Mr. Matthews said the following—

“Well, they look like a white crowd to me,” later claiming, “I think there is a tribal aspect to this thing, in other words, white vs. other people.”

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“Oh nooos!! The white people are coming!! The white people are coming!! Everybody, flee, flee for your lives!!”

However, the biggest offender of white liberal guilt to date has to be John Judis of The New Republic. Bob Somerby of The Daily Howler chronicled some of the ridiculousness of Judis’ ramblings—

“Clinton’s second great political mistake lay in how she dealt with Obama’s challenge. Sometime in December, having realized that Obama was going to be a genuine rival for the nomination, she and her campaign decided to go negative on him. They did the usual thing politicians do to each other: They ran attack ads taking his words somewhat out of context (Obama calling Reagan a “transformative politician”); they somewhat distorted old votes (voting “present” in Illinois on abortion bills); and they questioned old associations (Obama’s connection with real estate developer Tony Rezko).

John McCain and Mitt Romney were doing similar things to each other—and Obama did some of it to Clinton, too. But there a was difference between her doing this to Obama and McCain’s doing it to Romney—a difference that eluded Clinton, her husband, and her campaign staff.

My friend David Kusnet, Bill Clinton’s former speechwriter, explained the difference to me by citing what ex-heavyweight champion Floyd Patterson had once said about Muhammad Ali. “I was just a fighter,” Patterson had said, “but he was history.” Obama, too, was, and is, history—the first viable African-American presidential candidate. Yes, Hillary Clinton was the first viable female candidate, but it is still different. Race is the deepest and oldest and most bitter conflict in American history—the cause of our great Civil War and of the upheavals of the 1950s and ’60s. And if some voters didn’t appreciate the potential breakthrough that Obama’s candidacy represented, many in the Democratic primaries and caucuses did—and so did the members of the media and Obama’s fellow politicians. And as Clinton began treating Obama as just another politician, they recoiled and threw their support to him. “

Is it over? Can I look now? Man, that was an embarrassing gaffe (you know what they say—a gaffe is when you accidentally tell the truth), because it was unintentionally racist. Maybe I don’t understand white liberal guilt, because I didn’t grow up in a segregated era and both my husband and I have always had friends, and even family members, of all races and ethnicities. Furthermore, as a medical student, I had more minority attending physicians than white ones. Anyway, my point is that I think that most of my minority friends, family members, and attending physicians would probably find it to be offensive and patronizing if I were to blindly “throw my support to them” and not treat them like I treat everyone else because it would imply that they were too weak to stand on their own and be judged on their own merits, when they are in all ways my equals—and in some instances, my superiors.

Now, back during the 2008 election, Ron Rosenbaum of Slate magazine made the point that white liberal guilt was a good thing when he wrote the following—

“Since when has guilt become shameful? Since when is shame shameful when it’s shame about a four-centuries-long historical crime? Not one of us is a slave owner today, segregation is no longer enshrined in law, and there are fewer overt racists than before, but if we want to praise America’s virtues, we have to concede—and feel guilty about—America’s sins, else we praise a false god, a golden calf, a whited sepulcher, a Potemkin village of virtue. (I’ve run out of metaphors, but you get the picture.)

Guilt is good, people! The only people who don’t suffer guilt are sociopaths and serial killers. Guilt means you have a conscience. You have self-awareness, you have—in the case of America’s history of racism—historical awareness. Just because things have gotten better in the present doesn’t mean we can erase racism from our past or ignore its enduring legacy.

Well, can I easily answer Mr. Rosenbaum’s question, but in order to do this, I first need to go off on a tangent and quote Glenn Reynolds in regard to many of Obama’s voters (particularly Maureen Dowd)—

“I think Obama’s “charisma” was based on voter narcissism — people excited not just about electing a black President, but about themselves, voting for a black President. Now that’s over, and they’re stuck just with him, and emptied of their own narcissism there’s not much there to fill out the suit. As Ann Althouse says, “I think what Obama seems to have become, he always was.”

On a side note, reading Mr. Reynold’s quote reminds me of the TV miniseries V, which is about a group of aliens that try to infiltrate humanity and take over the planet earth by “spreading hope”. Anna, the leader of the aliens, controls them using “bliss”—a meditation/mind control trick where she tells them to forget all of their troubles, cares and responsibilities and to just feel good for the moment (see embed below).

So, to finally answer Mr. Rosenbaum’s question, yes, we moderates and conservatives feel terrible about slavery and segregation and the high levels of black men in prison. However, we are not going to just abandon all reason and logic and vote for some inexperienced, far left candidate just so that we can have the momentary “bliss” of patting ourselves on the back. Furthermore, we also feel terrible about unemployment and poverty, but we are not going to support some reckless, trillion dollar, budget busting porkulus bill that will only line the pockets of the Democratic special interest groups and not help any of the poor or unemployed (the stimulus has failed and unemployment is now over 10%). And finally, we also feel terrible about soldiers dying in Iraq and Afghanistan, but at the same time, we don’t support rashly pulling all of the troops out of the Middle East so that Al Qaeda and the Taliban will be victorious and more innocent people will die from future terrorist attacks.

In conclusion, white liberal guilt is a symptom of the irresponsibility and impulsiveness of liberalism. If it feels good for the moment, do it—consequences be damned. Hope, change, yada yada. Well, you know what? Mature adults understand that there are no easy solutions to real problems such as racism, poverty and unemployment, and that people who disagree with you politically are not automatically “Raaacists!!”. We also understand that everything you do in life has a consequence—that every action has an equal and opposite reaction. There are no short-cuts. There are no easy outs in life.

Dammit, there is no bliss!

There is only reality, and it’s high time that we all start living in the real world.

This diary was originally posted on The Minority Report.

34 Responses to There Is No Bliss.

  • James says:

    Good post. I didn’t read all of it, I just scanned it. But, it’s still a good post. How can I say this? Because just scanning your post I see you touched on many of the things that bug me; Obama (yes, I’m a black man who DIDN’T vote for Barry), Out of control Government (not just spending but, OUT OF CONTROL), LibProgs or LibProglatytes (you know them as Liberals), the ever played and over used “race” card, and the Left’s crazy intent on keeping us all divided. Oh, yeah and the Left’s “projection” of what they are onto anyone who disagrees with them…

    It’s strange how many people who support Obama show their own brand of bigotry by ignoring is white side. I always found it strange that when a person is mixed with black somehow the blackness takes 100% precedence over their other heritage. Weird.

    So, ya, very good post.

    Either America wakes up to the reality of having a Marxist revolutionary leader who appoints the most disturbing Czars or we will be like the great Roman Empire, destroyed from the inside.

    The LORD, Himself, be with you.

    In Christ, for Christ,
    James

  • Charlotte says:

    Great post, as usual and I totally agree with James above

    However, I’m still FREAKING OUT….

    Maureen Dowd actually said something nice about Sarah Palin? Is hell freezing over?

  • Bruce says:

    James,

    You said

    “I always found it strange that when a person is mixed with black somehow the blackness takes 100% precedence over their other”

    I find it strange that you say you are Black but you don’t seem to understand what being “Black in America” is…..You see before the first slave ship landed on US soil there were mixed race babies (think about that African women were raped on the way over). Unless you are first or second generation African living in America then chances are pretty slim that you are not mixed with something. Slavery saw to that. I am very dark skinned but my great grand mother looks pretty white. Whether the mixing happened during slavery or with your mother and father you are Black.

    My president is Black…..Black in America Baby….The revolution has been televised….

    PS

    Susannah’s articles are always well written I still think she is a RWG (rich white girl) with too much time on her hands….I can understand her opposition to the president but she is to the point that to her there is even somthing with the way his heart beats….

  • Charlotte says:

    Oh, come on, Bruce.

    It’s ok to disagree with a President on policy. Can’t call racism all the time…the word loses its meaning.

  • Bruce says:

    Charlotte,

    Please tell me where in my comment I said anything about racism. Yeah I admit I do talk about race a lot, but I don’t play the victim and I don’t blame everything on racism.

    Black in America baby…….The revolution has been televised…..

  • Charlotte says:

    Bruce: You don’t have to say the word “racism.”

    Using the black in America, baby line sort of gives it away (i.e. that you separate people by the color of their skin).

    Get a clue, sir.

  • Bruce says:

    Charlotte,

    “Using the black in America, baby line sort of gives it away (i.e. that you separate people by the color of their skin).”

    Hmmmmm….I know people that speak of their ethnicity all of the time, they speak to me about their heritage or background whether it be Greek, Italian, Asian or what ever. I don’t consider that being separatist in any way. I was just in New York last week and went to their little Italy, their China town, and someplace where there were a lot of Irish pubs. We are an ethnically mixed country and people should be proud of their ethnicity and differences. Its part of what makes this country great. If I am guilty of separating people by the color of their skin as you say it is only to learn more from them, enjoy some of their foods and traditions, not to degrade them in any way. Now when I say Black in America I am speaking to my ethnicity more than I am the color of my skin. Because if you look at “Black” people in America their skin color ranges from lily white to coal black like mine. In this country my ethnicity and the color of my skin are defined using the same word, just as “Jewish” defines both ethnicity and religion using the same word. I will always talk about race because people shy away from it and the conversation needs to be had…….I will never play the victim……

    Black in America Baby….the revolution has been televised

  • Gary says:

    Anyway, my point is that I think that most of my minority friends, family members, and attending physicians would probably find it to be offensive and patronizing if I were to blindly “throw my support to them” and not treat them like I treat everyone else because it would imply that they were too weak to stand on their own and be judged on their own merits, when they are in all ways my equals—and in some instances, my superiors.

    Excellent statement!

    I just have one question: what ever happened to the half white side of Barack Obama? And to follow up, is it implied that ‘white’ is void of any race, and the minute another race is introduced into the genealogy of an individual, that person takes on all attributes of said race, disregarding the aspects of being white?

    Regarding Obama’s [in]experience, this was the chief complaint of many throughout his campaign, but no one was listening. Requote:

    As Ann Althouse says, “I think what Obama seems to have become, he always was.”

    Hollow, and without substance, like a can of cake frosting without the cake. You can eat it, but it will surely make you sick.

    Merry Christmas, Steph. I hope your family are safe and healthy this season.

  • Bruce says:

    Gary,

    “what ever happened to the half white side of Barack Obama”…….

    Tell that to the slave that was half white and half black and still considered a slave and a “n*gg**r…….what happened to the white half in them…..oh yeah they got to work in the house instead of the fields……you people just don’t get it……

    Black in America Baby….. The revolution has been televised

  • Gary says:

    LOL!

    Go Al Sharpton, Go Jesse Jackson! Long live Victimhood!!!

    There will always be a reason for failure as long as that mentality lives. “My people” gets it just fine.

  • Bruce says:

    Gary,

    Wow……..Where is it that I am playing the victim….Please take a look at my other statements here……I was merely commenting on your statement of “what ever happened to the half white side of Barack Obama”……as I said before…… “Unless you are first or second generation African living in America then chances are pretty slim that you are not mixed with something”… I have a white side in me I guess but you would look at me and still consider me black…(my great grandmother is white) We are not pure Africans…..As I said before slavery saw to that….Why do you think there are so many black people with the name Jefferson,….. Ask Thomas about that….And by the way I am nobodies victim…I have a successful career…I have 5 children 4 of which are attending or have graduated from college and I own my home……. and it wasn’t because of welfare or affirmative action it is because I worked damn hard….I’m just here trying to help you “typical white people” (I used that as a term of endearment) get it…..

    Black in America Baby….The revolution has been televised……

    Read my other comments

  • Gary says:

    Wow……..Where is it that I am playing the victim….Please take a look at my other statements here……

    Okay, how about these:

    (think about that African women were raped on the way over)

    Or

    Tell that to the slave that was half white and half black and still considered a slave and a “n*gg**r…….

    And

    Why do you think there are so many black people with the name Jefferson,….. Ask Thomas about that….

    Now, how about a transparent look at real racism:

    Susannah’s articles are always well written I still think she is a RWG (rich white girl) with too much time on her hands….

    and

    just here trying to help you “typical white people” (I used that as a term of endearment) get it…..

    and finally your sign off

    Black in America Baby….The revolution has been televised……

    I’d encourage you to read Thomas Sowell, Clarence Thomas, and Condi Rice for a perspective that isn’t rooted in the ghetto of inner city America. Then you might begin to understand the only people continuing to discuss racism are those who benefit from it. Obama wasn’t elected because he was the best candidate, he was elected to fulfill a dream (see Jesse Jackson crying on election night). Now our country gets to reap the fruit of a barren tree.

  • Bruce says:

    Gary,

    First of all…I have been talking with people on this blog and another blog that is no longer around (Hang Right Politics) for quite a while at least a total of 3 years. I talk about “race” a lot not “racism”. There is a difference you know. Just because I talk about race doesn’t make it racist. As I said before I talk about it because I think it is a conversation that we should have. I know I annoy Steph sometimes but she hasn’t kicked me out yet. Yes I made a comment about Susannah being a RWG with too much time on her hands. But I also have complemented on her articles as I did in the comment you copied that statement from. While I disagree with them I have nothing but respect for the people here. The comment about “typical white people” comes from a speech that Obama made when he was describing his grandmother. Everyone made such a big deal of it when he was trying to open the dialogue about race. So I throw that out every now and then. Remember it’s a term of endearment. And the things I said about slavery and Mr Jefferson, they are facts and I only made them in relationship to your ““what ever happened to the half white side of Barack Obama”…….comment. But you fail to really look at what I said and just said I was playing the victim and was racist. And yes I sign off with Black in America…..but I am sure there are people who would sign of Irish in America, Italian, English or Greek. I made the statement before and I will repeat it for you “when I say Black in America I am speaking to my ethnicity more than I am the color of my skin. Because if you look at “Black” people in America their skin color ranges from lily white to coal black like mine. In this country my ethnicity and the color of my skin are defined using the same word, just as “Jewish” defines both ethnicity and religion using the same word.” And if you really have read Thomas, Clarence and Condie you would understand that their perspectives are really rooted in the Ghetto. You see you can come from the ghetto and have a conservative outlook. Contrary to popular belief all black people don’t think alike. (was that racist) ………..And Obama was elected because the people of America thought he was the best candidate. History will prove whether he was or not. Even Thomas Sowell stated that he couldn’t help but feel a sense of pride in Obama’s election even thouhg he disagrees with him. Just because it was also an emotional and historic event doesn’t diminish the fact that the American people spoke and he is now our POTUS our President and I mean all of us……

    Black in America Baby……the revolution has been televised

  • Gary says:

    The point is Bruce, every time you interject race, you throw another log on the fire of racism that would have gone out a long time ago. Growing up in the 60′s, I remember the KKK and the Black Panthers. I remember the Civil rights workers who were killed. I remember Martin Luther King JR. I remember Rosa Parks. I also remember the subsequent reverse discrimination and the reason for it; that somehow treating white people bad would make up for all the racism that preexisted it. You claim by your context to be the savior to the white folk by helping us understand the difference of race when in fact you annoy us with your sermons of Black in America Baby.

    I have been mostly absent from Steph’s cite for some time, but we occasionally banter on another cite, so I feel a sense of comfort to speak up here. You seem to be fairly articulate, and I appreciate your not so hostile comments. But I must tell you, if the discussion of race would have ended in the 70′s, folks would have let it go. (Not everyone of course because there will always be hatred for those who are different.)

    Why is it you consider ‘Black’ as a race, but quantify everyone else as ethnicity? I mean you’ve mentioned Irish, Italian, English and Greek, and even threw in the Jews for good measure, but you never mentioned African. Let me give you a clue: We are American. A unique Country that has many backgrounds, races and ethnicity, but those are all secondary to who we are: Americans.

    So it is with a sincere heart that I suggest your energy would be much better spent promoting America, and for what she stands, than continually dividing her citizens by the way they look.

  • Bruce says:

    Gary,

    You Said,
    “The point is Bruce, every time you interject race, you throw another log on the fire of racism that would have gone out a long time ago.”

    I would equate what you’re saying to this. Let’s you and your wife (or me and mine) were not having the greatest love life due to some problems in the past. If you never have a civil discussion about the issues then things will not get better. In fact what will happen is they will get worse. Talking about an issue should not be throwing logs on the fire as long as it remains a respectful conversation. While I may make some remarks bother you or you don’t agree with I don’t believe that I have been disrespectful. Tell me if I have. I believe just the opposite from you if we never talk about race then things will not improve. I still don’t understand why you believe a conversation about race is a bad thing.

    You said,
    “Why is it you consider ‘Black’ as a race, but quantify everyone else as ethnicity?”

    I don’t think you read what I say you just see what you want. I am copying this from an earlier comment on this post :

    “And yes I sign off with Black in America…..but I am sure there are people who would sign of Irish in America, Italian, English or Greek. I made the statement before and I will repeat it for you “when I say Black in America I AM SPEAKING TO MY ETHNICITY MORE THAN I AM THE COLOR OF MY SKIN”
    If you really take the time to read what I said I never said Black was my race. And I did mention African. Again I will copy what I said earlier “Unless you are first or second generation African living in America then chances are pretty slim that you are not mixed with something.” And yes I consider African different from Black they are not the same ask any African.

    You said,
    “So it is with a sincere heart that I suggest your energy would be much better spent promoting America, and for what she stands, than continually dividing her citizens by the way they look.”

    Again another case of you seeing what you want to see and not reading what I say so I will copy it for you again:

    “We are an ethnically mixed country and people should be proud of their ethnicity and differences. IT’S PART OF WHAT MAKES THIS COUNTRY GREAT. If I am guilty of separating people by the color of their skin as you say it is only to learn more from them, enjoy some of their foods and traditions, not to degrade them in any way.”

    You see I said I thought this country is great. I am promoting what this country stands for. Please, Please, Please…….Read what I say. Please understand that I am trying to have a conversation that should be had and not swept under the rug. And I am sorry this annoys you…tell me were you speaking for all “typical white people”…..

    Black in America Baby…….The revolution has been televised

    PS Thanks for the compliment you know about me being “fairly articulate”

  • Gary says:

    Please understand that I am trying to have a conversation that should be had and not swept under the rug. And I am sorry this annoys you…tell me were you speaking for all “typical white people”…..

    As I said, the 60′s were for conversation and discussion. The issue would have died and wounds healed in the 70′s if not for those who would capitalize on victimhood.

    You are not the only vociferous individual wanting to discuss race as it pertains to you. The web is full of those unwilling to let the issue die. Equate it to you and your wife (or me and my wife) going to therapy for too many years. You see, at some point, you have to resolve to agree that each of you are individuals and that you will stop pushing each other’s buttons, because each time you do, you open another wound. At some point, maturity leads you to say, it’s okay that things aren’t absolutely perfect according to Bruce. The world is not perfect, people are not perfect, there will always be hatred for those who are different, that’s life. Get over it and move on… while your at it, invite Al Sharpton Van Jones and Jesse Jackson to join you.

    RACE and your desire to blather on about it is yesterday’s news. Pick another topic. And by the way, Obama was not picked because he was the best candidate. He convinced folks he was the Messiah, (at least those dying to believe in something new and exciting) but we now see he was not the best candidate. He ran a spectacular campaign; one for the history books. But he ain’t campaigning no more. At some point he’d better step up and lead this country or we’ll be speaking Farsi and taking our prayer rugs to work before the end of his term.

  • Bruce says:

    Gary,

    Vociferous……hmmmm I had to look that one up being as I am just “fairly articulate” and a simple man…….Its funny the only reason I am having this dialogue with you is because you said “what ever happened to the half white side of Barack Obama”….I guess its ok for you to talk about race but as soon as some vociferous individual as myself replies to you then I am opening up old wounds…..and let’s talk about “yesterdays news”…that fear mongering that you are spreading about Obama not leading this nation….He is seeing the war through in Iraq…He is upping the stakes in Afghanistan, he is tightening the noose in Iran…..but none of the conservatives seem to want to talk about that, because during the campaign they were all saying he would lead us to defeat…… They want to concentrate on the health care issue which conservatives called his “Waterloo”, and he seem to be making progress on that…. You are the one who needs to stop blathering the “fear Obama mantra” ….because he is a Muslim routine…..That my friend is old news…..

    Black in America Baby…….The revolution has been televised…..

  • Gary says:

    Ahh, I get it. Topics that are a few months old are ‘old news’ but topics that go back nearly 40 years are discussion worthy. What a knucklehead.

    Here’s a few reasons why I am concerned about our country:

    “Even in the Obamas’ superstar Christmas interviews with Oprah Winfrey and Gloria Estefan, there were discussions about Santa Claus, Christmas trees, ornaments, gingerbread houses and even their dog’s Christmas stocking. Obama even gave a Christmas shout-out to all Hispanics. But there was not one mention of religion or a hint of the real reason for the season. Gone are the days when presidents and most politicians publicly rejoiced in the birth of Christ. Like many of you, I still remember a day — even in Washington — when Christ was central to Christmas. It was an America that was far less politically correct, an America that wasn’t afraid to stand up for its belief in the babe who was born in Bethlehem.

    Besides Obama, even our modern Democratic presidents have stood up for America’s Judeo-Christian heritage and the true meaning of Christmas. Here’s a small sample…
    …It’s well-known that President John Kennedy was a Catholic. What’s not so well-known is that in 1957, then-Sen. Kennedy disclosed at a National Conference of Christians and Jews dinner what he believed was the remedy to the ills in society: “Upon what can we rely? Where can we compete? In what can we find hope for the future? The answer, I believe, lies ultimately in the very principles which we honor tonight — the principles of our Judaic-Christian heritage.”

    President Lyndon B. Johnson publicly declared on Dec. 22, 1963: “We were taught by him whose birth we commemorate that after death, there is life. … In these last 200 years, we have guided the building of our nation and our society by those principles and precepts brought to earth nearly 2,000 years ago on that first Christmas.”

    President Jimmy Carter spoke to the nation Dec. 15, 1977: “Christmas has a special meaning for those of us who … know that almost 2,000 years ago, the Son of Peace was born to give us a vision of perfection, a vision of humility, a vision of unselfishness, a vision of compassion, a vision of love.”

    President Bill Clinton addressed the nation Dec. 21, 1999, with these words: “St. Matthew’s Gospel tells us that on the first Christmas 2,000 years ago, a bright star shone vividly in the eastern sky, heralding the birth of Jesus and the beginning of his hallowed mission as teacher, healer, servant and savior.”

    Will President Obama’s Christmas address rival those Christian confessions of past presidents? Will it even reflect them at all? Or will his yuletide cheer be another politically correct concoction, adding to the ones that already have adorned the first year of his presidency?

    Unlike all preceding presidents, President Obama has denied America’s rich Judeo-Christian heritage before the eyes and ears of other countries, as he publicly declared in Turkey on April 6 for the whole world to hear: “We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation.”

    Who are the “we” to whom Obama refers? Consider how his statement smacks against the former presidents’ statements above. The truth is that every time President Obama has had an opportunity to stand up for Christianity in any way, he has not only denied it but also disdained it.

    Even during his presidential campaign, Obama sarcastically belittled America’s Judeo-Christian heritage and degraded its adherents with trite remarks typical of any atheistic antagonist. For example: “Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation”; “the dangers of sectarianism are greater than ever”; “religion doesn’t allow for compromise”; “the Sermon on the Mount (is) a passage that is so radical that it’s doubtful that our own Defense Department would survive its application”; and “to base our policymaking on such commitments (as moral absolutes) would be a dangerous thing.”
    …”

    I’m guessing, based on his comments regarding abortion and religion, his tenure under Jeremiah Wright, and the few of many issues I have quoted here, we are heading for a terrible horizon under his dis-assembly of Freedom and Liberty.

    Let me close this conversation with a quote from one of our framers who also enjoyed the moniker “The Father of our Nation”

    “The Hand of providence has been so conspicuous in all this, that he must be worse than an infidel that lacks faith, and more than wicked, that has not gratitude enough to acknowledge his obligations.” –George Washington

  • Bruce says:

    Gary, Gary, Gary…..

    First of all I hope that your and your family have a Joyous and Blessed Holiday…I also extend that to everyone else that might read this…….

    I find it interesting that the president’s that you named as espousing Judaeo Christian values consist of a philanderer of the greatest proportions who would have never survived the scrutiny of today’s 24 hour press….One who was known to throw back a few too many drinks…..One that “lusted in his heart” and was considered weak and one who got a bl*wj*b in the Whitehouse……and all of these were my fellow democrats I am sad to say……But the republicans aren’t exempt either….Ronald Reagan divorced his first wife and John McCain left his first wife for the younger woman….What do you think is better words or actions…

    Barack Obama is the husband of one wife and what he showed me on Oprah was a Black man that was dedicated to his wife and family….What better Judaeo Christian value can you show than that……Fatherless families are still a big problem in the Black community and Obama is a shining example of Black man leading his family and showing how it should be………And who are you to say what his faith is because at the end of the day it will be between him and God…..and your opinion really doesn’t matter……..

    And as I said before you only see what you want in my comments…I mentioned what Obama was doing in the wars in the middle east which is a very big issue in this nation, he is going against his liberal backing…..but you like other conservatives have nothing to say about that even though he is following conservative approach on this……conservatives are so bent on always being critical on Obama about everything that they take your approach on the issue….THEY JUST DON’T TALK ABOUT IT…..Why throw logs on the fire huh……

    Black in America Baby……..The revolution has been televised….

    By the way George Washington had slaves too….and you know there are a lot of black people walking around with the last name Washington…Judeao Christian values huh….

  • Gary says:

    Barack Obama is the husband of one wife and what he showed me on Oprah was a 1/2Black man that was dedicated to his wife and family….What better Judaeo Christian value can you show than that…… just because a snake swims doesn’t make it a fish Fatherless families are still a big problem in the Black community and Obama is a shining example of 1/2Black man leading his family and showing how it should be……… I’d agree with that And who are you to say what his faith is because at the end of the day it will be between him and God….. I didn’t say, he did. Those were quotes, not assumptions.and your opinion really doesn’t matter……..neither does yours. And as I said before you only see what you want in my comments… What I see is a one song juke box who can’t get off the race issue. As I said before, get over it and move on. At some point, you’ll need to grow up and stop whining about the failures of this nation that stemmed all the way back to slavery in Africa. You are using a dead issue to draw attention to yourself for no other reason than to capitalize from victimhood. You expect me and others here to give you credibility because you are black and know better than everyone else. Sorry, but your song has been sung ad nauseum making you nothing more than elevator musak. Merry Christmas to you as well.

  • Bruce says:

    Gary,

    You live up to the conservative mantra…..Race wasn’t the only thing I talked about in my last comment. I spoke of a very relevant issue the which was the wars in the middle east….ONCE AGAIN….you ignored that and instead you concentrated on the race issue only…..Also in a earlier comment I mentioned the health care issue but you ignored that also…even though you may disagree with me on it……Funny the only thing you have agreed with me on is the fact there are too many Black fatherless families….No I don’t think I know better than every one else that is one reason I take the time to have these debates I want to learn. And once again I will say to you I am not playing the victim. Victims tend to do nothing, sweep things under the rug, and not talk about them……..Who does that sound like…..Let’s not throw any logs on the fire…..

    1/8 White and Black in America ……..The revolution has been televised

  • Gary says:

    The point you seem to be missing is the simple fact that every comment you’ve made, regardless of other topics which are of substance contains reference to race. Every one.

    If you wanna discuss healthcare as it relates to ALL Americans, fine. If you want to chat about the current efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan, outstanding. I can provide some clear insight as I have folks in theatre as I type this.

    The only thing I have disagreed with you (and you would have seen had you paid attention to my comments) is that race is not a relevant issue anymore. My comment “What happened to the white side of Obama” was intended to be rhetorical, drawing attention to the fact that the only comments he made about it wound up throwing his grandma under his bus. Everyone else got that. Perhaps I should have been a little more concise.

    I have substantiated every comment made with facts rather than conjecture. You, on the other hand have provided arguments based on emotions which hold little water in the field of debate.

    1/4 Osage Indian, fighting for Liberty and Freedom in America for everyone from military service to now.

  • john ryan says:

    Buyer’s Remorse ????? None of those would consider exchanging Obama for McCain would they ? Amongst Democrats, the party he represents, his popularity/job approval is still very high.

  • StephC says:

    Susannah’s articles are always well written I still think she is a RWG (rich white girl) with too much time on her hands….I can understand her opposition to the president but she is to the point that to her there is even somthing with the way his heart beats….

    Two things you should know about Susannah that might change your perception a bit. First, she used to be a liberal until she saw that destruction liberal policies cause. Second, she’s a newly minted MD who will be directly affect by those destructive policies.

  • StephC says:

    1/4 Osage Indian, fighting for Liberty and Freedom in America for everyone from military service to now.

    Cherokee and Ojibwa, but Gary, you have to realize that we must be race traitors to be conservative.

    In the end, race/ethnicity victimology will be the undoing of the liberals. I, for one, welcome it. One day perhaps I can look all of them in the eyes and say welcome to real freedom rather than the psuedofreedom the liberals promise but never seem to deliver.

    Sorry, I’ve been gone so long. Family issues and then, on Christmas eve to top things off, I spent the day and all of the new few days and continuing putting my computer back together after a nasty surprise from a trusted site just when I had some stuff turned off and forgot to turn back on… (hitting head against wall for own stupidity).

  • StephC says:

    Oh, and give me another week or so to get my system back up to snuff before expecting a new blog post.

    Sorry about this but it’s been a bad (really bad) few weeks; basically since just before Thanksgiving.

  • Gary says:

    Sorry to hear the Holidays have been difficult, Steph. We’re kind of in the same boat these days. I was laid off a week before Thanksgiving from construction management simply because the company’s backlog of work dwindled from 140 million to 20 million in six months due to lost funding for projects.

    I’ve been scouring the nation, but ’tis the season to be jolly, not job hunting. I hope life turns around soon for you Steph and you can enjoy the blessings of being ‘His kid’ again. Happy New year!

  • StephC says:

    Gary this whole year has been difficult in one way or another. If not financial, on a personal level not always easy to deal with. I don’t know if 2010 is going to be any better all things considered and it could be quite a bit worse because I believe there is worse yet to come and we must be on guard; guard against forces within as much as those from the outside like jihadists.

    I don’t think terrorists is the right word anymore. They don’t really inspire terror in me but more a righteous anger because I’ve never done anything to any one of them for any reason but simply exist with my own set of beliefs and my own religion.

    As for the domain name, I’ll fix that in the blogrolls right now.

  • Susannah says:

    Thanks so much Anthony–I really appreciate the kind words. Oh, and please come back here and visit us again. :smile:

  • This is one of the most interesting posts I’ve read in awhile, I’ll be sure to add you to my favorites and include your feed in my google news reader. Thank you!

  • Susannah says:

    Thank you so much Eddie. I really appreciate it. :razz:

    Oh, and welcome to Hillbillypolitics!

    Take care and I hope to see you soon.

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